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Use the space below to reflect on our latest class discussion on oceanic zones (both benthic & pelagic) and the apparent "inverted trophic pyramid" found in coral reef ecosystems.

The slide set we used to facilitate our chat can be viewed here:

In the space below, tell what connections you made to the information discussed on 11/9/2009. What new information connected with your especially well? What "Aha!" moments did you have where something became clear?


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This is a really nice reply of clarification. This is exactly what I mean about the kind of "value-added" reply that adds to the conversation more than just a friendly sort of way. Thank you for this. This is the way it should be done.
I totally agree that getting to compare and contrast the west and east coast was really interesting. I had no idea that they were so different! I just thought they were oceans. When you mentioned The Lord of the Rings it made me laugh because I never even would have thought of that, but I can understand why it would remind you of the tide pools! :) And I’m glad that we won’t be seeing any of those dead people either!
I would definitely freak as well if I went so deep into the ocean where it was completely dark! (Although, I think it would also be very cool!) :)
Brooke, I like how you brought Animal Planet into this. That was hilarious.

I too thought those animals were amazing to be able to do that. I really want to look into how they are able to do that. I mean, do they have lungs? How can they switch back and forth? Whats the pressure difference do to them? Just crazy questions I wished I knew.
Lungs are good at extracting oxygen from dry air. Gills are efficient only when wet.

Therefore, the paradox is most easily solved with regard to marine critters by finding a way to keep their gills wet during periods of drying.

Make sense?
To an extent. Does this mean they find water to make gills efficient, or does it mean they produce a saliva or water based substance to clear up their needs?
yes, and yes... and also simply trap it within a structure they can close. think: mollusks.
Ok so I'm not that great at reflecting on things but here goes anyways.

Monday night I got to class just in time to start the lesson on Oceanic Zones. As everybody so far has said I had no clue about the different levels, not only are there levels in one way but in many. With the Pelagic zones and Benthic zones.

Something that was kind of news to me was that just because plants live in a certain area doesn't mean that they enjoy living with those conditions. It just means that they can survive there. The plants that reside within the "Supralittoral" zone are those exact kind. They can survive underwater as well as out of water so they may not like going back and forth but they can so that's why they live there. Same with cacti in the desert.

Another thing that got me was the pyramid. It's crazy how it completely flips. I had no idea that by eating a fish like tuna affected that much life beneath it, it knew there was a lot, because it has to eat something, but what I didn't realize was that it was that much.
I also thought that the Tide Pools were really neat.
I found that the tide pools were cool too. I especially liked the giant ones that made the mortar and pestle. It was cool to think of how those were naturally occuring and the water used the rocks to destroy the sides and make the areas bigger over time.

"The plants that reside within the "Supralittoral" zone are those exact kind. They can survive underwater as well as out of water so they may not like going back and forth but they can so that's why they live there."
I think that you are getting these areas confused. This is the littoral zone that is underwater sometimes and out of it at other times. The supralittoral can be hit by water in conditions that are not normal, such as hurricanes, tsunami's, or just extremely high tide, but the reason they are special, is because they do get splashed with salt water and so they have to be able to survive a ton of salt.
Again... excellent clarification of some possible confusion between supralittoral... and littoral.
thanks for that on the supralittoral/littoral thing. I guess I should have had my notes in front of me when I wrote that. I had in a big box that said LITTORAL and not supralittoral. And since I did get that wrong on here I probably got that stuck in my head instead of what was right. So thanks for pointing that out.
It is crazy to me how we could eat at a lower trophic level and have 10 times as much food as we would have the next trophic level up. It doesn't make sense to me when everyone is eating at high trophic levels. Eating at lower trophic levels is healthier too.
Apparent inverted trophic pyramid... apparent. It really cannot be inverted. In fact, this is related to the Law of Conservation of Mass/Energy.

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